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E83: What's Happening in France with Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry

"Moment of Zen"

Fri Jun 14 2024



French Political Landscape Post-European Parliament Elections:

  • Macron's party faced a significant defeat in the recent European Parliament elections, while the National Rally performed exceptionally well.
  • The unexpected decision by Macron to call snap legislative elections has plunged France into a state of political chaos.
  • These upcoming legislative elections are crucial as they will determine who appoints the next prime minister and forms the government.

Implications of Macron's Unpopularity:

  • Despite having support from 20 to 30% of the population, Macron is facing declining popularity due to economic challenges and unfulfilled promises of reforms.
  • Issues such as public finances, energy policy failures, inflation, taxes, and debt problems have contributed to his waning approval ratings.

Comparison of French and US Political Cultures:

  • In France, there exists a divide between dissatisfied native white working class/middle class individuals and cognitive elites who support Macron.
  • Similar dynamics can be observed in Europe with populist trends on the right gaining momentum like AFD in Germany and Brexit in the UK.

Potential Growth of Populist Right Parties:

  • The National Rally continues to make incremental gains each election cycle despite not securing victory yet.
  • Uncertainty surrounds whether traditional right voters will align with populist parties or maintain separate identities based on coalition strategies.

Long-Term Political Forecast for France:

  • Speculation suggests that a potential traditional-populist coalition may gain political success over time.
  • If this coalition comes into power, it could lead to substantial changes in immigration policies and potentially reshape France's socioeconomic system.

France's Political Landscape and Immigration:

  • Mass immigration has been used to mask economic issues in the US, but some argue for welcoming immigrants as potential innovators like Elon Musk.
  • The idea of allowing in large numbers of unvetted individuals is questioned due to the scale involved, with references made to exceptional cases like athletes or successful entrepreneurs.
  • A comparison is drawn between France and a potential "France version of Brexit," with a proposed compromise involving opting out of specific EU laws while remaining part of the union.
  • Speaker Pascal discusses the concept of selectively opting out of certain EU laws rather than completely exiting, aiming to maintain trade benefits while asserting national interests when necessary.

Implications of France Leaving the EU:

  • France's position within Europe, being a key economy and using the euro, presents challenges if it were to leave the EU, potentially causing disruptions in supply chains and affecting currency values.
  • Suggestions are made for France to selectively opt out of certain EU laws rather than completely exiting, aiming to maintain trade benefits while asserting national interests when necessary.
  • Criticisms are raised against certain EU regulations like GDPR, highlighting the need for reforms without jeopardizing overall economic stability.
  • Speaker Pascal emphasizes that selective opt-outs from specific EU laws could lead to a more balanced system where European law aligns better with consensus rather than decisions by an unelected body.

Optimism for France's Future:

  • Optimism is expressed regarding young people in France being entrepreneurial and sharp-minded compared to previous generations, leading to a positive outlook on the country's long-term prospects.
  • Contrasts are drawn between American Zoomers and French Zoomers, with French youth impressing due to their mindset and readiness for entrepreneurship.
  • Personal commitment is shown by choosing to live and work in France despite other opportunities abroad.
  • Speaker Pascal highlights his optimism about France's future based on the intelligence and entrepreneurial spirit of young people in the country.